Showing posts with label Drabek. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Drabek. Show all posts

Monday, December 14, 2009

Thoughts on Lackey and Halladay

John Lackey is headed to Boston Red Sox for a deal slightly larger than A.J. Burnett's last season. When Jason Bay started to look like he wasn't coming back, they had money to spend. After missing out on Teixeira last year, and now Bay, they have some free cash. This signing may or may not prohibit them from pursuing Matt Holliday.

Roy Halladay was traded to the Phillies, and the trade also pushes Cliff Lee to the Mariners. The Phillies also trade away two of their top three prospects (Kyle Drabek and Michael Taylor), as well as one of their other better ones, to the Phillies, and receive the hard throwing Phillipe Aumont from Seattle.

Does this make the Phillies a better team? Slightly. Halladay is a slightly better pitcher than Lee, and they are going to sign him to a smaller extension than Lee will demand. Halladay is a year older, so that's a slight loss, but the guarantee that they will have Halladay beyond this season is a huge gain for them.

But Michael Taylor and Kyke Drabek are a pretty steep cost. And while Halladay won't want a contract comparable to what he'd get as a free agent after this season, his discounted contract will probably end up around the contract that Cliff Lee would have demanded. So this relative money savings comes at the cost of Michael Taylor, which isn't that great of a price for the Phillies.

And Phillipe Aumont plus some unknown strong, but note elite prospects is a pretty good price for Cliff Lee, or at least comparable to what the Phillies paid for him last July. So the Mariners get a win for him, and they probably have money to sign him for an extension if they so choose. Did the Blue Jays get a fair return for Halladay? Yeah. The Phillies made a bold move here, and have successfully traded 6 of their top 7 prospects since July.

Now this leaves one to wonder, why didn't the Phillies make a similar deal to this back in July? Wouldn't a rotation led by Halladay virtually guarantee them a World Series?

To me, Aumont is the best prospect moved in this deal. I remember seeing him pitch at the World Baseball Classic, and was wowed by how good he was. I like him more than Drabek (although I'm probably in the minority here).

However, a once overrated top-heavy farm system is in danger of being near barren. They have two blue-chippers, and no depth. And the worry about Aumont is that he might be a reliever and not a starter, in which case, his value is a lot lower. On the other hand, he can close instead of Lidge if Lidge falters again.

Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Thoughts on Phillies getting Lee for almost nothing

No, Cliff Lee is not Roy Halladay. One couldn't expect for the Indians to get both Drabek and Brown from the Phillies for them. As a Mets fan, I can't be too upset, considering the Mets got Johan Santana for a comparable package. But Johan at least forced a trade to them, while Cliff Lee did no such thing.

The Phillies didn't have to give up any of J.A. Happ, Dominic Brown, Michael Taylor, or Kyle Drabek, their 4 best young players. They gave up absolutely everything they had but those 4 players., but the Indians were downright stupid not to demand at least one in a deal. Jason Donald is a nice prospect, but probably is nothing more than a David Eckstein with a stronger arm. Carrasco could be a mid-rotation starter, and Marson a lower level starting catcher.

Maybe this is a biased viewpoint of mine, but I just don't like many of the prospects in the Phillies system, I just don't see the raw tools out of them to be superstars. (Maybe Dominic Brown, but otherwise I'm very skeptical).